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	<title>Comments on: Now that Visual Studio 2008 is Out, Where is My MVC?</title>
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		<title>By: Peter Wieselquist</title>
		<link>http://accidentaltechnologist.com/visual-studio/now-that-visual-studio-2008-is-out-where-is-my-mvc/comment-page-1/#comment-252</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Wieselquist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 16:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Nicely said. You&#039;ve echoed my sentinments exactly. Other than Master Pages, I&#039;ve &quot;sat out&quot; most of the ASP.NET so-called innovations, like server-side form/viewstate/postback/webparts, and other nonsense. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I mean, c&#039;mon. Button events on a web page? Talk about square web pegs into round winforms holes.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nicely said. You&#8217;ve echoed my sentinments exactly. Other than Master Pages, I&#8217;ve &quot;sat out&quot; most of the ASP.NET so-called innovations, like server-side form/viewstate/postback/webparts, and other nonsense. </p>
<p>I mean, c&#8217;mon. Button events on a web page? Talk about square web pegs into round winforms holes.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Wieselquist</title>
		<link>http://accidentaltechnologist.com/visual-studio/now-that-visual-studio-2008-is-out-where-is-my-mvc/comment-page-1/#comment-1255</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Wieselquist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 16:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nicely said. You&#039;ve echoed my sentinments exactly. Other than Master Pages, I&#039;ve &quot;sat out&quot; most of the ASP.NET so-called innovations, like server-side form/viewstate/postback/webparts, and other nonsense. 
I mean, c&#039;mon. Button events on a web page? Talk about square web pegs into round winforms holes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nicely said. You&#8217;ve echoed my sentinments exactly. Other than Master Pages, I&#8217;ve &quot;sat out&quot; most of the ASP.NET so-called innovations, like server-side form/viewstate/postback/webparts, and other nonsense.<br />
I mean, c&#8217;mon. Button events on a web page? Talk about square web pegs into round winforms holes.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Bazinet</title>
		<link>http://accidentaltechnologist.com/visual-studio/now-that-visual-studio-2008-is-out-where-is-my-mvc/comment-page-1/#comment-251</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob Bazinet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 07:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;@Royagmug Thank you and glad I could help.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Royagmug Thank you and glad I could help.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Bazinet</title>
		<link>http://accidentaltechnologist.com/visual-studio/now-that-visual-studio-2008-is-out-where-is-my-mvc/comment-page-1/#comment-1254</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob Bazinet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 07:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Royagmug Thank you and glad I could help.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Royagmug Thank you and glad I could help.</p>
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		<title>By: Royagmug</title>
		<link>http://accidentaltechnologist.com/visual-studio/now-that-visual-studio-2008-is-out-where-is-my-mvc/comment-page-1/#comment-250</link>
		<dc:creator>Royagmug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 20:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Hi &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Wasjust serfing on net and found this site...want to say thanks. Great site and content!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi </p>
<p>Wasjust serfing on net and found this site&#8230;want to say thanks. Great site and content!</p>
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		<title>By: Royagmug</title>
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		<dc:creator>Royagmug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 20:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi 
Wasjust serfing on net and found this site...want to say thanks. Great site and content!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi<br />
Wasjust serfing on net and found this site&#8230;want to say thanks. Great site and content!</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Stevens</title>
		<link>http://accidentaltechnologist.com/visual-studio/now-that-visual-studio-2008-is-out-where-is-my-mvc/comment-page-1/#comment-249</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Stevens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 13:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I&#039;ve evaluated a variety of frameworks. Ruby on Rails is ideal for CRUD applications and rapid prototyping. Adobe Flex is even better for rapid prototyping because non-programmers can rapidly build rich applications.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;JBoss Seam is the Ruby competitor in the Java world. It marries the best available--Java Server Faces (JSF), Facelets, Java, Hibernate, POJOs (Plain old Java Objects) and EJB3. The problem is the learning curve. It could and should be easy but writers expect you to have a five-year history in Java frameworks.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;JBoss Seam is the only framework I&#039;ve found that correctly manages state information and the Back button, and without much effort on the programmer.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve evaluated a variety of frameworks. Ruby on Rails is ideal for CRUD applications and rapid prototyping. Adobe Flex is even better for rapid prototyping because non-programmers can rapidly build rich applications.</p>
<p>JBoss Seam is the Ruby competitor in the Java world. It marries the best available&#8211;Java Server Faces (JSF), Facelets, Java, Hibernate, POJOs (Plain old Java Objects) and EJB3. The problem is the learning curve. It could and should be easy but writers expect you to have a five-year history in Java frameworks.</p>
<p>JBoss Seam is the only framework I&#8217;ve found that correctly manages state information and the Back button, and without much effort on the programmer.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Stevens</title>
		<link>http://accidentaltechnologist.com/visual-studio/now-that-visual-studio-2008-is-out-where-is-my-mvc/comment-page-1/#comment-1252</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Stevens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 13:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve evaluated a variety of frameworks. Ruby on Rails is ideal for CRUD applications and rapid prototyping. Adobe Flex is even better for rapid prototyping because non-programmers can rapidly build rich applications.
JBoss Seam is the Ruby competitor in the Java world. It marries the best available--Java Server Faces (JSF), Facelets, Java, Hibernate, POJOs (Plain old Java Objects) and EJB3. The problem is the learning curve. It could and should be easy but writers expect you to have a five-year history in Java frameworks.
JBoss Seam is the only framework I&#039;ve found that correctly manages state information and the Back button, and without much effort on the programmer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve evaluated a variety of frameworks. Ruby on Rails is ideal for CRUD applications and rapid prototyping. Adobe Flex is even better for rapid prototyping because non-programmers can rapidly build rich applications.<br />
JBoss Seam is the Ruby competitor in the Java world. It marries the best available&#8211;Java Server Faces (JSF), Facelets, Java, Hibernate, POJOs (Plain old Java Objects) and EJB3. The problem is the learning curve. It could and should be easy but writers expect you to have a five-year history in Java frameworks.<br />
JBoss Seam is the only framework I&#8217;ve found that correctly manages state information and the Back button, and without much effort on the programmer.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Bazinet</title>
		<link>http://accidentaltechnologist.com/visual-studio/now-that-visual-studio-2008-is-out-where-is-my-mvc/comment-page-1/#comment-245</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob Bazinet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2007 12:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I know Sun and Java were ahead of Microsoft with related MVC frameworks, but I am not a Java developer and never have been.  It is unfair to really compare Sun and Microsoft, much like comparing apples and oranges.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;These two companies have their hands in particular companies and these companies are generally loyal to their chosen brand.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;As a .NET developer, I would not consider Java, Eclipse or any of their open-source projects, not because they are bad but because I am not familiar with them.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thanks for the comment.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know Sun and Java were ahead of Microsoft with related MVC frameworks, but I am not a Java developer and never have been.  It is unfair to really compare Sun and Microsoft, much like comparing apples and oranges.</p>
<p>These two companies have their hands in particular companies and these companies are generally loyal to their chosen brand.  </p>
<p>As a .NET developer, I would not consider Java, Eclipse or any of their open-source projects, not because they are bad but because I am not familiar with them.</p>
<p>Thanks for the comment.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Bazinet</title>
		<link>http://accidentaltechnologist.com/visual-studio/now-that-visual-studio-2008-is-out-where-is-my-mvc/comment-page-1/#comment-1248</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob Bazinet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2007 12:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know Sun and Java were ahead of Microsoft with related MVC frameworks, but I am not a Java developer and never have been.  It is unfair to really compare Sun and Microsoft, much like comparing apples and oranges.
These two companies have their hands in particular companies and these companies are generally loyal to their chosen brand.  
As a .NET developer, I would not consider Java, Eclipse or any of their open-source projects, not because they are bad but because I am not familiar with them.
Thanks for the comment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know Sun and Java were ahead of Microsoft with related MVC frameworks, but I am not a Java developer and never have been.  It is unfair to really compare Sun and Microsoft, much like comparing apples and oranges.<br />
These two companies have their hands in particular companies and these companies are generally loyal to their chosen brand.<br />
As a .NET developer, I would not consider Java, Eclipse or any of their open-source projects, not because they are bad but because I am not familiar with them.<br />
Thanks for the comment.</p>
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